This conversation between Mary Robinson (President of Ireland, 1990-97) with Vanessa Nakate (a young climate activist from Uganda) brings sustainability to the fore. The young Ugandan articulates very intelligently the need for a sustainable future for Africa. She is also involved with Greta Thunberg’s worldwide campaign with young people and met her at COP26 in Glasgow UK. This conversation hits the nail of sustainability on its head and I hope you will find it well worth your time. —John Anstie